I’ve never handled a nomad but have sandman suppressor and it’s built like a tank. At 6.8 inches in length and a weight of 18.5 oz the Sandman-S™ is the perfect cross-over suppressor for your 5.56mm, 300BLK, and 7.62 platforms, even up to .300 Win Mag. I saw the same thing about direct thread coming loose. First Suppressor - Sandman-S vs ? We love silencer owners and we don't believe they should be left in the cold. Rating - 100%. its not full auto rated. Tom in Oregon says: June 24, 2020 at 13:26 . You can add the KeyMo adapter and the Nomad will be about the same weight, just larger diameter. The Nomad is just a touch shorter as well. but not everyone on the interwebs agree with you. However, I was just talking to the guys who run the Suppressed Nation YouTube channel and IG page the other day. Buying now I'd go with the Ti as it has the length and performance of the original Nomad with a 30% weight reduction... Definitely a plus for anything you are hanging on your muzzle and toting around, possibly swinging and shooting unsupported. When I bought my first can I thought itd be my last.... well its not looking that way now. Ultimately, the nomad will be quieter, but the sandman s seems to be a great entry and has a great mix of length, sound suppression, and weight. I read an article about it, probably something dead air put out. Silencer Shop and Mike Pappas Dead Air Nomad and Sandman - SHOT Show 2020 - Duration: 13:21. Glad to see the post took on a life it’s own with a little heated debate even. So first off, a nomad, keymo adapter, and flash hider will run me about 1100 before stamp it seems, and a sandman S is about 300 cheaper with flash hider. The Nomad is just a touch shorter as well. It may not display this or other websites correctly. Reviews; Write a Review; At 6.8 inches in length and a weight of 18.5 oz the Sandman-S ™ is the perfect cross-over suppressor for your 5.56mm, 300BLK, and 7.62 platforms, even up to .300 Win Mag. Can anyone really break out the difference between the dead air nomad and sandman for me. Cant really find anything on google directly comparing these 2, only the nomad and the L or Ti. Apologies for the noob question. The stellite baffles handle erosion better than any other material out there. You can add the KeyMo adapter and the Nomad will be about the same weight, just larger diameter. You must log in or register to reply here. You are using an out of date browser. Uh no...I have personally melted down a nomad in a destruction test... it's full auto rated I can assure you. My Ti has never come loose on anything I have attached it to. 53 Likes, 4 Comments - Bruce (@mrsilencers) on Instagram: “Nomad vs. Sandman-S workbench battle. I apologize if format is weird, I’m on mobile. Sandman S vs Micro 30. Give all 4 pages of that thread a read through and pay attention to specific posts form user “Mageever”. If it wasn't such a hassle I would consider trading my Nomad 30 off for the Ti, but it is what it is. If you had to shoot it indoors, like a house, which would you prefer to be using? That is Todd Magee, the designer of suppressors at Dead Air. Looks like cell G37 has a typo unless you mean to say that the Dead Air Sandman S is only 28.2dB at the ear. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. 20 thoughts on “ Suppressor Performance Database ” Edwin April 19, 2016 at 5:36 pm. The Nomad Ti was sexy but I wanted max suppression. Dead Air Sandman-S 7.62mm QD Mount At 6.8 inches in length and a weight of 18.5 oz the Sandman-S™ is the perfect cross-over suppressor for your 5.56mm, … The image below from Recoil is about the best way to visualize the difference. The light weight titanium and stainless silencer is intended to go everywhere you go on whatever host rifle your day requires. If it wasnt such a hassle I would consider trading off my Sandman for a Nomad Ti after looking further into it. At 17.3 oz and 6.8 inches long, it is ideal for shooters who value a suppressor with a smaller profile. for 5.56 I'm planning to purchase my first suppressor in the next few weeks and I'm still having a tough time deciding on the best option. Weight and diameter are the big differences which come from the materials used in construction. The Dead Air Sandman-S is the reduced length version of the Sandman suppressor. Cassandra updated 11 months, 4 weeks ago 2 Members ... I’m really torn between the nomad and the Vox S, but I don’t want to have to use wipes all the time for a great experience. It’s a beast. I … As only knowing enough about cans as having one issued and using it for CQB and Recce patrols, I appreciate the detailed info. The Nomad is more than tough enough for the vast majority of shooters, and in fact, I would personally recommend the Nomad series of suppressors to most shooters over the Sandman series. And I was under the impression that dead air’s patent ensures that only the dead air muzzle brake is keyed to force it to be mounted the same way every time, so there’s no change of zero. The QD system is design perfection. So the welding might address a potential issue that could arise without it, but I don’t know for sure. Dec 14, 2017 #1 So I bought a 22 can from Tar Heel State a few weeks ago and think I want to go ahead and get the process started for a .30 cal can as well. Weight and diameter are the big differences which come from the materials used in construction. some people state that the rating is different between the two. One hand removal in just seconds. New comments cannot be posted and votes cannot be cast. Without the silencer, a five shot string of the same Federal Gold Medal turned in an average velocity of 2629 fps with a SD of 10.7. .....the nomad cant take the heat that the sandman can.... bud. I see what youre saying. You can just get away with a lesser NRR rating. It really ends up depending on what you want out of it and your end goal. Joined Dec 19, 2016 Messages 1,352 Location Winston Salem. The Sandman S is QD out of the box, it has a 1.5" diameter, a length of 6.8", and it is build like a tank. My other consideration was Thunderbeaat. The Dead Air Armament Sandman series of silencers comes in an S and L version.

The Sandman-S is the shorter version suppressor in Dead Air’s notorious Sandman 7.62mm silencer line. About AR15.COM. (See y’all in 6-9....) Thing is absolutely huge, but has the greatest noise suppression based on all the data I could uncover. Is the Nomad TI "louder" than the Nomad-L? 3 0 0. Will have to look into EA. But is there really a big difference in sound suppression? *Accessories such as Key-Mo and E-Brake shown in images are not included. 300BLK Subs, 6.5CM and 300WSM. Founded by Frank Galli in 2014, Sniper’s Hide has been offering informational videos, podcasts, and other support to it’s users in one location. Looks like you're using new Reddit on an old browser. I could run Key-Mo on my Nomad, but it's just too heavy and bulky, not the best option out there for most uses IMO. I've had my head down working on our new taper mount, and times are just crazy busy in general. Anyone have other recommendations. They have been testing the nomad with 3 different versions: a new one, slightly used, and one with several thousand rounds through it. I like the deeper tone of my nomad vs my buddies sandman. Lantzjoey291 Replies: 13 Views: 524 1/9/2021 1:23 AM monkeypunch Previous Page. If you need the strongest can for whatever reason, the Sandman line is it. If you’re not shooting FA/SBR regularly the Sandman is a bit overkill in my opinion. Hope it helps. I like the direct thread and keymod options. You’ll be fine with the Nomad but be aware it comes in direct thread config and you’ll need to add a keymo if you want that capability. difference in materials. I just ordered the Nomad-L w E-brake as my first can. It also comes off when you want.”. Plus, the Nomad-30 is compatible with all Sandman front caps. the nomad on the other hand cant take the heat. If you search hard enough on youtube you can find videos of people shooting each to get a better idea of what "tone" they are. Why ever go Nomad? I asked a question kind of similar a little while ago on here and it sparked some conversation between the different lines. This suppressor is 6.8 inches long and 17.7 ounces, providing shooters a compact and maneuverable addition to their host firearm, with impressive performance on 300BLK, 5.56, and 7.62. Lantzjoey291. Sandman comes standard with Keymo mount and built like a tank for around the same pricepoint. and the sandman series is built full auto rated. In MAC’s 7.62 video the back to back testing of the Sandman L and Omega showed that the Omega was actually 4dB quieter with a .308 bolt gun which adding it all up winds up being 9~10dB from the Omega to the L to the S (Disclaimer: this is clearly an overstated estimate of the gap between S and Omega). For the kind of shooting I do the difference in toughness really doesn't matter, mostly hunting/LR bolt gun and slow fire AR, my cans never get up to the ~800 deg level where Ti has problems. Other than length and weight (they are almost the same, with the nomad being a small bit shorter but wider, and slightly less weight), how does the performance compare? But a Nomad E-Brake on a Sandman looks rather… phallic. I believe he gives some first hand comparisons and advice between the Nomad and Sandman S a few places. Am leaning more towards Ti. Choose your poison!…” I have a Sandman S and Ti. Keep it coming. re: Silencerco Omega Vs dead air sandman S Posted by boatless2 on 10/2/17 at 12:59 am to Ice Cream Sammich Well after watching a bunch of YouTube videos, and talking with y’all, the dead air was consistently louder decibel wise than the thunder beast, silencerco omega, … Hansohn summed it up, the nomad is the right choice for 90% of people (lighter, quieter, modular mounting, strong enough). great thing about these cans is if you are ok with their muzzle devices, one suppressor can work for all your rifles 300wm down to 556. and even if youre not ok with their muzzle devices other companies like son of liberty make compatible hider/brakes. Nomad is .7oz lighter and .7” longer. I could see if it was a dedicated can the direct thread would be nice, but if ive got a grand plus piece of equipment im going to find every way possible to use it. I went Nomad-L plus EBrake for better sound suppression and recoil and muzzle rise reduction. Page / 8 Next Page. My main concern with threads is the potential to loosen with heat and recoil. One hand removal in just seconds. But naked Ti is sexy when it gets hot and starts to turn colors. The use of NOMAD™, DEAD AIR ARMAMENT™, and SOUND MODERATION TECHNOLOGIES® on this page are merely to advertise the sale of compatible parts or components. The flash hider front cap optimizes your Sandman or Nomad-30 silencer by reducing the front cap size to your caliber. Suppressors, Short Barreled Rifles, Short Barreled Shotguns, Destructive Devices, Any Other Weapons, and Machine Guns are all welcome here. That means your Nomad-L can have the same robust and proven attachment method as our Sandman models, giving you the best of both worlds. Im brand new to suppressors and nfa stuff, so i probably wont understand anything more than basic terms. Silencer Shop tested the Nomad-Ti vs. the Nomad-30 in this video and here are the 300 BLK and 6.5 Creedmoor numbers: ... You can definitely tell the difference in sound vs my Sandman-S but on a 16” carbine the shorter length and lighter weight is absolutely worth the tradeoff. Yes, the Nomad Ti is there same length as the Nomad 30, and meters very similarly: Db is not everything in a can, it helps, don't get me wrong. ... Deadair Sandman S - They don't need to … Omega vs Sandman S. Thread starter Gear Head; Start date Dec 14, 2017; Gear Head Happy to be here. Long and heavy. Reply. We find out. The Sandman S is 17.7 oz and thinner where the Nomad is 14 oz (in direct thread). Their video should be out soon and might be able to give you an idea on the performance information. So first off, a nomad, keymo adapter, and flash hider will run me about 1100 before stamp it seems, and a sandman S is about 300 cheaper with flash hider. I would say my sandman has more of a mid range sound to it, with less or a high frequency pop. Can Cerakote just about anything. https://www.ar15.com/forums/Armory/-ARCHIVED-THREAD-Dead-Air-teasing-new-lightweight-modular-rifle-can-Nomad-30/20-493205/?page=1. Sniper’s Hide is a community of Snipers of all kinds, focusing on long range shooting, accuracy, and ballistics. Boys, thanks for all the great information. I thought they'd be pretty similar and warrant some comparison discussions but I was pretty surprised to find almost nothing. My only experience is with the Surefire issued cans. The Nomad 30 is a nice size/performance combo for those uses, and I like mine. I intended to get the sandman s until someone suggested the nomad. Otherwise, the Nomad line is able to adapt to most scenarios very well. Because Key-Mo is heavy and long and regular DA muzzle devices are also heavy themselves, leading to a mount/adapter weight penalty of a little over 8 oz. No wobble, no seizing, no … Does the nomad have a better noise reduction, tone, or anything else over the S that warrants the price difference? On the other hand, I think you could mark the suppressor and brake in such a way that you line it up the same way every time. As with the Nomad model, the Sandman E-Brake accepts all Dead Air end caps–though in this case, we think that the addition of a flash hider endcap would mostly just serve for aesthetics. Of course, you can still interchange them. Thanks for the input and I concur with your statement that while cans help in reducing decibels, ear protection is vital as well. They haven't tested the Nomad Ti in any of their videos yet, but they do test the regular Nomad 30 against the ultras, and the Dominus. 300 Blackout (Supersonic) The QD system is design perfection. Live and learn. When I shoot subs out of my Rem CSR with the sandman its movie quiet. whatever you can throw at it itll take. Other than length and weight (they are almost the same, with the nomad being a small bit shorter but wider, and slightly less weight), how does the performance compare? A community of hobbyists interested in NFA items, topics, history, and news. The Nomad 30 was louder and less comfortable to shoot than the L and the Sandman. I just put an ultra 7 gen 2 in jail last week, but I was in the same dilemma, I looked really hard at the Dominus, and the Nomad Ti as well as the ultra 5 & 7. But thats just me. I plan to buy 5.56 caps for which ever i choose for my 14.5 P&W rifle, and other rifles later on. Sorry I missed this. Ive got a sandman l. from my understanding a few of the differences are the materials they used and the dimensions. The Griffin customer family has more room and now's the best time to jump on board! Although it is shorter than the Sandman-L, it still provides excellent performance across 5.56mm, 300BLK, and 7.62 platforms. Sandman-S. The Nomad Ti sure was sexy but I went with big Bertha. I was leaning towards the Nomad. I found the Sandman to be most comparable to the L, and the Hybrid landed somewhere closer to the Nomad 30. With the Sandman S screwed to the end, a similar five shot string dropped to 2620 fps on average with a SD of 5.7. Should still wear hearing protection even with cans, cans are still not exactly hearing safe. Watch Mike and Mikeith talk more about the Nomad-30. Still been trying to get my hands on the ebrake which helps even more. The Nomad can attach to not only Dead Air muzzle devices but also SilencerCo ASR and Q muzzle devices if you already have the quick detach adapter for those devices. Shop for Low Price Brownells Mpo Ar15 Com And Dead Air Nomad 30 Vs Sandman S Site Www Ar15 Com . For example, the 5.56 front cap greatly reduces first round pop, and decreases the muzzle reading by roughly 1 to 3 dB. The site may not work properly if you don't, If you do not update your browser, we suggest you visit, Press J to jump to the feed. Yea, they seem like the most comfortable. sandman is smaller in diameter. Nomad vs Vox S vs ?? JavaScript is disabled. Yes. The Sandman S is 17.7 oz and thinner where the Nomad is 14 oz (in direct thread). The female thread pitch on the inside of the Nomad is compatible with the thread pitch on those QD adapters. Hopefully we can get some insight. Anyone own both that can offer some insight? The Nomad-30 is specifically designed for the everyday shooter. I've had my head down working on our new taper mount, and times are just crazy busy in general. While we didn't think it could get any better than a Sandman-K, S, L or Ti, we were pleasantly surprised when this little silencer wandered into our shop! “The KeyMount mounting system is welded into it and it doesn't come loose on the muzzle device when shooting. Don’t see much from their website. The nomad is lighter as noted and I think the tone is better on 308 with the nomad. Some use on a 556 during pig hunts. That being said, as an average hunter who does not own sbr or auto rifles (at this time), i'm researching/looking for something that meets my current needs and I think the Ti may be the "perfect fit" as it is light and I will strictly use it only for semi-auto and hunting rifles. Which can would y’all recommend, maybe even above these two? The Dead Air Nomad-30 ships with a fixed mount (at the time of this writing either 5/8x24mm or 1/2x28mm), which definitely gives you a shorter OAL than you might expect–falling in-between the Sandman-S and the Sandman-K Silencers (Page 1 of 8) AR-15 AK-47 Handgun Precision Rifles Armory Training Competitive Shooting General Outdoors Archery Hometown Industry. AR15.COM 14,150 views. If you are already a fan of the Dead Air muzzle devices, you’ll be happy to know the Nomad-L is KeyMo compatible. https://www.reddit.com/r/NFA/comments/acjbvv/please_help_me_choose_between_a_dead_air_sandman/?st=JS3KV9R0&sh=2025a35b. The Dead Air Sandman-S is widely regarded as a suppressor that can take ruthless punishment while still providing superb decibel reduction on multiple platforms. Mike Pappas, Founder of Dead Air Armament and Director of New Product Development, set out to further the legacy of the Sandman series with a new lightweight suppressor designed specifically for the everyday user. That's right. The Nomad series bring plenty versatility. Thats all i got. Nothing really to add at this time. Both the Nomad and Vox-S seem like great cans, but I can't help but think if EA released a "Vox-M" with a ~2" modular front section on top of the standard Vox-S length they would corner this market completely. If the Ti is something you are interested in for a specific purpose, like hunting, then get it. If you’re planning on running the suppressor on a truck gun or walking through woods the Sandman S to me is more study and has a smaller profile then the nomad. The Nomad is an ultra-versatile suppressor designed by Dead Air Armament to meet the needs of the everyday user. Sandman S with the Nomad version of the E-brake on it. These are the cans i'm considering as well. I don't have any info for you, but just wanted to pop in and say thanks cause I had also searched this and came up pretty empty handed. Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts. They do independent testing using calibrated BK2209 meters at muzzle and at ear to the correct mil standard. That means your Nomad-30 can have the same robust and proven quick attachment method as our Sandman models, giving you the best of both worlds. The Nomad is 1.735" in diameter, with a length of 6.5", weighs 3.7 ounces less than the Sandman S, direct thread out of the box (5/8" included and 1/2" adapters extra), and takes the Sandman end caps. We seek to expand general understanding of the laws collectively referred to as the National Firearms Act and their implications for gun owners and citizens of today. Looking to get a suppressor for my 300wsm and 308. Sandman has a Stellite baffle stack in a tube and the Nomad is tubeless 17-4 baffles. https://www.ar15.com/forums/Armory/Dead-Air-Nomad-30-worth-getting-with-Sandman-S-/20-493515/. Right now I'm going back and forth between the Dead Air Sandman-S and the Surefire Socom556-RC2.

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